This previous week, I mentioned the rumors and options that the Miami Dolphins ought to take into account signing former gamers Xavien Howard and Ryan Tannehill. I then requested the next question-
Would you like signing both Howard or Tannehill and even a type of two? If sure, why? If not, why?
Under are a few of your ideas and answers-
Mrperson26 thinks the concept of bringing X again, however as a security, is likely to be the best way to go. It is not an concept that I had considered, however it’s additionally not the worst concept I’ve seen as of late!
One factor I don’t perceive is why there isn’t any dialogue of Xavien being introduced again as a security. It’s a pure transition for corners who’re good cowl guys and stable tacklers – rod woodson, Charles Woodson, and aeneas Williams all did it later of their careers.
I agree that the time was ripe to maneuver on from X as a nook, but when Weaver’s system employs three safeties usually, I feel X’s ball expertise and understanding of coverages would lend themselves properly to security play, and the quickness he has misplaced over the previous couple years wouldn’t be as a lot of an element both.
Redwood_ doesn’t appear down with both!
No and No. Subsequent.
PhinstantReaction appears to imagine that Tannehill is an all-around higher QB than Tua.
Not clever to usher in a better, extra skilled and extra gifted backup at QB for those who’re attempting to power your starter to be higher than he’s
21Dave doesn’t sound like he may have Howard over for dinner any time quickly!
F%$Okay X with a stick and fervour!!
Tannehill can’t throw the lengthy ball!!! Hahahha
Though we might proceed to #BlameTannehill!!
Spok507 is considerably cut up on the query…
I’d take a cross on X. He made it very clear, his ego is way larger than the crew needs to cope with. He’s not a high nook (or somebody would’ve picked him up on at the very least a one-year deal by now) and I doubt he has all of the sudden modified his views to just accept a lesser rol and loads much less cash. I simply suppose he’d be an issue. Sorry X, however you type of wore out your welcome along with your perspective and calls for.
As for RT17… I don’t know. On one hand, I do suppose he’d be an improve type White, who I by no means believed would be capable of lead this crew if he needed to. He’s a enjoyable story and straightforward to root for, however simply doesn’t have the expertise to be a beginning QB if referred to as upon. Tannehill has the expertise, however I’m unsure his recreation works with McDaniel’s offense. Whereas he’d most likely love throwing to our receivers, is he fast sufficient? I do know he’s most likely smarter than Tua, however I’m unsure he can throw as fast, whereas I imagine Tua having to react fast as an alternative of suppose helps him play higher. However, as I mentioned earlier than, Tanny can be an improve to White. However I’d relatively see the place Skylar is at this level and if he’s developed sufficient to be QB2. He has the perfect arm of the three.
Thomas23059 is on board with X coming again and in addition changing him to security however is every kind of out on Tannehill.
Name me loopy, go forward you realize you need to.
Howard – would like to see this occur. See if perhaps he could make the conversion to security like Rod Woodson did. Baltimore used numerous DBs, so somebody pretty much as good as Howard nonetheless is ought to get loads of taking part in time. They may most likely promote him on a decrease value deal to transform to security with the concept if he excels it units him up for another large payday.
Tannehill – thanks for the reminiscences, however no thanks. Backside line, if Tua goes down, Miami might be toast. But when I’ve to choose between Tannehill and Mike White, I’m taking White. Tannehill threw for over 4000 yards twice in his profession, and his greatest seasons got here with a younger Derrick Henry. Mike White has performed most of an NFL recreation 7 instances, and in these 7 video games he has over 2000 yards. So his yards per recreation, for those who exclude the video games the place he didn’t play a lot, works out to a 4000 yard season. He throws far too many interceptions, however at the very least he can transfer the ball by the air.
TheRoo1 is a no on each however with vastly completely different reasoning.
So, how a lot of the gross overpayment is Howard providing to present again?
At this level, after his mid contract wage stunt, he must be reminded that “what’s good for the goose, is nice for the gander”.
As to Tanny, I’ve all the time thought he acquired a uncooked deal. Poor help, and in Tennessee he did enhance. He has been a category act as an individual, and can be a step up from White.
However, bringing him again will begin frequent requires QB substitutions. Tua naysayers will immediately change into Tanny lovers, and name for him loudly. With that in thoughts, I’d be a no vote on Tanny.
acdc1a sees Tannehill as a high backup if introduced again however doesn’t see Howard taking a reasonably small contract from the Phins.
Tannehill is immediately one of many high 5 backup quarterbacks within the league. X isn’t going to take rubbish cash. He retires earlier than that occurs.
Call_for_the_Priest’77 is just not towards bringing Howard again and isn’t offered on the concept he wouldn’t once more begin for the Phins if he was, the truth is, added to this roster. Would even be open to Tannehill coming again…
I like the concept of X coming again to the crew however solely on a crew pleasant contract in fact. X’s acceptance of such would present a stark turning level in his perspective in direction of cash. Prior to now he has positioned himself properly forward of the crew’s concerns. Probably not a judgement towards X, simply extra of a reality. It’s what it’s and it’s hardly an unique perspective simply to him. And naturally, the larger level right here can be his acceptance of a crew weighted deal. Even his waffling “(X) has closed the door on returning to Miami” to his now apparently leaving that door open, will be hushed by this modification in perspective.
I might disagree that outright, he wouldn’t be a starter on the crew. I’m not saying he can be one, simply that it is mindless to conclude with certainty that he couldn’t line up reverse his buddy from final yr as soon as once more. Including X to the aggressive mixture of Fuller, Smith, Kohu, Apple and others makes good sense to me if he’s going to be on this crew. If we had a clone of Jalen Ramsey to play reverse his true self that may be completely different. Nonetheless, I’m nowhere close to able to endorse any of our different guys as being anyplace close to his calibre.
I additionally like the concept of attempting him in a security function like a few of you could have talked about under. Maybe a hybrid security / nook / LB function much like what Eric Rowe did for us a couple of years in the past.
Have been it not for cap causes, I don’t suppose we ever would have dropped X. I feel he nonetheless is an effective participant who must be mightily motivated to indicate the league he nonetheless has the products – if he nonetheless has the products! Maybe he’s not the boldface kind ‘X’ however nonetheless a man who might assist the crew and perhaps extra so than we expect.
I’m usually skeptical about retreads who had a big keep their first time with the crew. I can’t consider a single case of this nature the place such a participant has flourished to any significance. In fact in Tannehill’s case, we wouldn’t be saddling him with the burden of the crew once more. And may he play behind our group of (wholesome) OL starters, I don’t suppose he will probably be passing blood in aid anymore (for these new to the crew or possessing brief reminiscences, Tannehill was sacked, pressured and hit a lot all through his Dolphins tenure that this actually occurred greater than as soon as. Some crash take a look at dummies had it higher than poor RT!).
We would want to know his perspective in fact. Would he nonetheless have the starvation and fervour that noticed him by these punishing years, however now as an advisor / cheerguy from the bench? Might he step in chilly for the primary time as a pre-defined QB2? And okay, what the hell, has he nonetheless acquired the products to do one thing?
I feel he most likely does have some items left. I’m skeptical nevertheless that he would need to come again. I feel he would favor a scenario the place he might put himself into the combination for a beginning job as his profession alternatives are diminishing quickly. Miami is not that actuality for him. In reality, if he has reached the bodily and or psychological level the place he would take into account a nearly outright QB2 function, I must rely that towards him within the motivational division. He would make sure to search out some aggressive scenario that may see him get more cash than a complacent QB2 function in Miami, so that may’t be an element.
That apart, if he expresses a want to play right here and is cool with a pleasant crew quantity, I might drop Mike White in a rush to choose up RT once more. I don’t suppose it is going to occur however it might be fascinating, good for Tua and fairly encouraging for the followers and crew.
Yarganaught is down with each if the value is true!
I’d be in favor of signing each gamers… supplied the value was proper and so they knew their function as back-up. In addition to, it’d give me one other probability to put on my Tannehill jerseys.
SuperG! says X is a no go whereas being in on Tannehill on the identical value as White.
If I had been Grier, I’d inform X to go kick rocks. As for RT17, if he’d be keen to just accept Mike White cash, then signal him up as he’d be an on the spot improve on the backup place.
Miami7 is up within the air about Howard whereas being in on the Tannehill concept.
I simply don’t suppose ‘X’ has a complete lotta curiosity in hitting/tackling a lot (might be flawed). I might suppose ‘protection clever’ he’d be fairly properly suited at this level of his bodily maturation to play S, however I’d need to dig a bit of deeper (GII/Earl?), which I’m not so inclined, to really see/decide whether or not I feel he’d thrive in a extra bodily function? Face worth – I don’t suppose he cares to stay his nostril in and play extra of a ‘hitters/physicality’ function?
Tannehill I do suppose would really be a sound ‘get’. However, there once more, I haven’t actually seen sufficient of Mike White to truthfully have opinion on what he brings to the desk. Tannehill can be tremendous in a caretakers function for a couple of video games right here or there. IMO
Luvs2drnk2.0 is most definitely appropriate on each, particularly Tannehill who’s going to be searching for someplace that he can probably change into the starter.
I’d need to cross on each, primarily as a result of each are probably searching for more cash than we’d be keen to pay. Each are probably ready for June 1st to roll round when groups may have extra cash to signal them. X will probably signal with a contender to offer depth and chase that ring (I’d enterprise KC, BAL, PHI, SF as probably spots). Tanny most likely nonetheless needs to begin and can need to go to a crew with an ageing veteran (Jets, Rams, SEA) or has a questionable starter (Saints, NYG, CAR, LV) that would give him an opportunity to begin and earn one final large contract.
Dolfriend appears open to each!
TH > White
X as third Security?
carry again the whalers says sure on Ryan and no on Xavien.
I don’t thoughts the tanne concept, however would relatively give a younger humgry cb reps than x at this level. X will signal someplace else, everybody ready till june…
MiamiSkye needs to attend and see with White earlier than changing him.
Even when X performs for the league minimal, he would nonetheless make more cash than ramsay with all of the lifeless cash. (Until that cash is void, I’m not a contract skilled)
Tannehill is an possibility however I’d prefer to see how white does this low season. I’m unsure it’s value one other 1.7 lifeless for somebody who is aware of the playbook and crew chemistry properly. Hopefully we by no means see him moreover on the sidelines.
Dolfanjoe says persist with the present plan till one thing breaks!
Dam James that is an fascinating query of the Nite ! Howard i’d say no to until we happen accidents in camp early. We have to develop among the youthful gamers we’ve got now, and having them play preseason will allow us to perceive not solely what we’ve got trainable and gifted. However we don’t have to maintain and may nonetheless transfer on ! Even after cutdown day, if the scouts are doing there jobs gamers must be on the radar as enhancements. As for Tanny ? Would he be an enchancment over White ? I actually don’t have any gauge of how White has improved himself as we actually solely seen him play a bit of. The Man has expertise, and confirmed it a couple of instances with the Jet’s. Tanny would value us how a lot ? I don’t know what number of instances final yr i screamed at Tua to run for that first down after which slide ! Tanny all the time had the ball’s to do this ! Very skilled QB, works properly working a run recreation offense ! And you may say he by no means had the weapons he would discover right here presently ! Be mindful, Tanny can very comfortably sit out the preseason and look forward to that inevitable damage to a principal backup on some crew. And he’ll most likely receives a commission fairly handsomely. I suppose what i’m saying is, don’t change something until it’s important to or pressured to. However which will come………………………By the best way, we’ve got a second spherical CB who wants to indicate he belongs and is combating for a beginning spot !
daytonadolfan is a thumbs up on Tannehill and a thumbs down on X.
I’d be okay with Tannehill as a dependable backup however no to Howard . X is just too far down the diminished talent rabbit gap to swimsuit me . Given an honest “O” line Tua’ and or Tannehill might thrive with the weapons out there
There was no consensus on this one however that’s factor so far as debates go. Additionally no consensus on the reasoning for bringing or not bringing again both participant. A few of the reasoning both approach was for certain issues that I had not considered. Thanks once more to everybody who took the time to reply our query of the day. We’ll return tomorrow night with one other query of the day publish.
