Over the previous few years, exterior of beginning quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, no different determine related to the Miami Dolphins has been extra liked or hated than normal supervisor Chris Grier. This previous week, I requested a query based mostly on the ups and downs of our Dolphins, the place they stand proper now, and Chris Grier’s half in getting the crew to the place we at the moment are.
Do you suppose that Miami Dolphins Chris Grier deserves extra credit score and optimistic evaluations and fewer disgust and hate now that the crew seems to be in a superb place, or do you continue to see him as both a part of the issue or the most important downside that the crew nonetheless has?
Under are a few of your solutions and ideas on the query of the day-
Dynski19 says, “Chris has achieved his job.”. Truthful sufficient!
I do get we haven’t gained a playoff sport, however so far as aggressive rosters go this one and final years are most likely one of the best I’ve ever seen. High 10 within the league perhaps 5 I’ve by no means been extra excited to start out a season. Chris has achieved his job, we’d like just a little luck come December and January
finfanfromsiam says he’s simply common.
Grier is a median GM IMHO. He hits some and he misses some. Some really feel he might have some signings achieved however didnt. Or did the gamers gamble and stated no to a superb contract seeking to break the financial institution? Wilkins agent stated as a lot. Some draftees and FA dont pan out as a result of circumstances a GM doesnt management(teaching or lack of, harm, lack of effort, ect). GM’s get scorched greater than most positions by followers.
Dr.Greenthumb doesn’t appear to be a fan.
ZERO playoff wins. None. Zilch. Thats his outcome to this point.
SuperG! is “OK” with him.
General I like Grier, however he’s a combined bag of excellent and unhealthy. Some will without end dislike him as GM due to the Tua over Herbert choice and different choices made in the course of the 2020 draft. The underside line is that it seems Ross totally backs him, so on the finish of the day, that’s all that’s going to matter. IMHO he’s doing a fantastic job and I’m OK with Grier because the GM.
Call_for_the_Priest’77 says he deserves some credit score!
I discover it not possible and wantonly irresponsible to present Chris Grier unhealthy marks for his time as our GM. No different particular person anyplace on this group deserves extra credit score than Grier for taking a close to 20 yr, floundering, ineptly led in any respect ranges franchise to the purpose of playoff relevance.
The odd boner alongside the way in which? Certain. However you don’t get the prospect to make a couple of boners if you’re not making a ton of GOOD strikes in your crew! Present me a GM who hasn’t made a couple of unhealthy strikes throughout their profession! The vastly revered (as he must be) John Lynch in SF? Don’t suppose so! We wouldn’t have gotten Waddle had been it not for his bonehead transfer up the draftboard to go get perpetual re-assembly required Trey Lance (finally moved on to Dallas after about 4 video games with SF)! Grier’s drafting of Noah (I by no means did discover ways to spell his title) Igbe or the a lot maligned Liam Eichenberg (who has but to show himself completely unsuitable for the crew) look fairly pale in comparison with Lynch’s transfer.
We’ve got improved almost yearly since Grier was granted true GM authority after Tannebaum left. He has excelled in drafting, trades and signing FAs. Hiring McD actually was an enchancment during the last HC earlier than him. Backside line, he has put the items in place for us to lastly do one thing! It’s not a fluke.
As for AVG departing for Minnesota, I strongly consider that was as a result of his liking for – of all individuals – his former HC in Miami, Brian Flores, who in fact is their present DC. I’m positive Grier needed AVG
however it’s obvious that AVG needed Flores greater than the Dolphins. Personally I believe AVG ought to get checked out for submit concussion signs for his disposition in the direction of and voluntary re-connection with Flores however I’ll go away that followup for one more submit. Mentioning AVG’s departure as by some means being the fault of Grier is admittedly reaching for straws. This solely helps the argument that there actually isn’t a lot to complain about for probably the greatest GMs during the last 5 or extra years.
Spok507 says there’s been extra hits than misses and I’ve to agree.
I believe Grier has labored to get gamers who the coaches deem a match for no matter their wants are. He listened to Flores (till Flores stopped speaking with anybody) and now listens to McDaniel. I doubt he makes a transfer with out the settlement of his HC. So whereas some issues may be thought-about his fault, I lean extra towards the errors being collective errors slightly than simply Grier. He’s listening to a number of enter from a number of completely different sources. Typically he finally ends up going with the unsuitable recommendation and typically he goes with the appropriate recommendation. In any case, gauging how any participant will play inside a system, scheme or scenario is principally guess work and instinct. I believe he’s had extra hits than misses and has given his coaches groups they’ll win with.
twinssdfan desires nothing to do with Exhausting Knocks once more.
No extra HBO Exhausting Knox I really feel he’s higher than Eire and Tbaum. Simply want extra draft picks he has gained them subsequent yr. Give attention to this yr i and lots of others need playoff win and extra.
Invoice Moody is anxious in regards to the offensive line and I agree. I don’t know why now we have gone what looks like without end with out a respectable line. It is arduous sufficient to win the Tremendous Bowl with an important O-line, not to mention our ordinary half-ass cobbled-together line that we often run on the market.
I’m nonetheless involved over the O-line, a priority I’ve had for 10+ years. Its clear our philosophies differ on the right way to construct a successful crew. With that stated, I do suppose he’s achieved a superb job managing the cap and stars. I don’t know if I’ve seen this a lot star energy on the crew ever, on each side of the ball. I do suppose we’re contenders for the Superbowl, with the caveat’s that we’d like the O-Line to carry out and gamers to remain wholesome.
coluccim is rightfully involved in regards to the cap sooner or later.
0 playoff wins and 0 division titles.
But, everybody will say what an important crew now we have talent-wise and training – if everybody was doing an important job, we’d see outcomes.
We’ve got additionally borrowed most likely near 150 million of future cap—we’re already $44 million over in 2025 and $15 million over in 2026.
Miami7 says he’s mediocre however has had some hits to associate with the misses.
He’s been the epitome of mediocre. Missed on excessive picks – lookin’ as if Rip-off Smith could also be one other? Doesn’t appear to know an OL’man from a phone lineman. He’s hit on a couple of, however no All-Professional stage ‘hits’. He’s made some unusual trades which have appeared extra an affinity to commerce than enhance the crew in drafts? However he’s introduced us Tyreek, Chubb, Ramsey, Armstead and drafted Waddle, Holland, Jackson & Tua and McDaniel. He’s made the crew entertaining & aggressive, which is greater than the final 37 guys they’ve had within the place during the last 25 years!
I’ll say THE #1 factor I can not stand from him is the kick-the-$-can down the highway philosophy. It’s bit us now a couple of instances and can worsen as his tenure continues.
tvegas897 doesn’t appear impressed with any protection of Grier. Win now or get out!
The reasons for Grier are unimaginable. Let’s revisit after this season. So far as I’m involved, he’s out of excuses. Playoff win on the very least or he’s worn out his welcome
DolphinDollar is just not on board with Grier in any manner.
Sure he completely deserves credit score for setting this franchise again 20 years. I’m going to make this brief and candy, the article of soccer seasons is to win playoff video games and presumably a Tremendous Bowl in the event you get actual fortunate. That’s the place the Grier dialog begins and stops, he flat out has not achieved it. The person can not GM a crew gifted sufficient to host a wild card sport, this man has swung and missed so many instances that we are going to quickly be a third rebuild below his management. Most likely a pleasant man however the Miami Dolphins haven’t gained a playoff sport in 23 consecutive years and Grier has been with the group having a say so in personnel strikes for twenty-four consecutive years, let that sink in for a minute.
daytonadolfan says cease it and go away it to the professionals.
Grier has had some good and unhealthy moments, however general, I believe he’s achieved higher than his predecessors, and time will inform if he hit it this yr or not. All of our “Armchair G.M.’s “ appear to know the ins and outs of the soccer enterprise, I choose to depart it to the professionals!
glen55 says he’s been masterful!
I can perceive the way you long-time followers have stuff to complain about, however I simply began pulling for this crew in 2020 when Tua arrived. Throughout that interval, Grier has been one thing approaching masterful. The roster was dogmeat in 2020 and now it’s a legit contender. The Fins had been worn out by accidents final yr, not by missing the expertise to compete.He did a very masterful job at navigating the free agent interval this yr. The crew had high-profile losses it actually couldn’t afford to keep away from, and never sufficient cap house to tackle any massive new hires to offset them, but by some means free company was fairly near a wash. That was not far wanting miraculous.
Lax2029 offers no credit score with out playoff wins!
Till this crew wins a playoff sport it’s about blame not credit score. Except it’s credit score for mediocrity I suppose. If we win come playoff time it’s seemingly there will probably be various gamers or coaches or GM able to take credit score so let’s see what occurs. Fingers crossed.
DX@TX has ranked some GM in entrance of Grier.
These GM’s rank larger than Grier: Caserio, Decosta, Veach, Snead, Tobin, Roseman,Bean and Holmes. Grier is weak in expertise analysis, perhaps he wants higher scouts?
NRBNRB says he higher begin drafting higher as a result of the cap is about to catch as much as him.
He higher study to draft expertise, as a result of after 2025, he gained’t be capable to go purchase expertise…
sdphinsfan says he is doing his job.
I believe you must put this query within the correct context. When you do, you must come to the conclusion that within the historical past of this franchise, the outcomes we’ve gotten from the GM place have largely been poor or combined. There have been the early years of the late 60’s and early 70’s the place it appeared we “hit” on each choose or commerce. However since then, it’s been alot of “meh”.
Most followers of different groups really feel precisely the identical manner. They’re just a little happier in KC right this moment than they had been 10 years in the past, however nearly all people else has combined emotions in regards to the GM place. All people thinks they’ll do it higher, and so they can’t, except you allow them to return and re-do their errors.
Grier has had his successes, and failures, within the draft. He’s had successes with trades, and failures. He’s signed gamers to nice offers for the franchise, and he’s had some clunkers. Thus far, he’s achieved extra proper than unsuitable for my part. And to get excessive, he wants the one factor that has eluded this franchise because the early 80’s. He wants gamers to carry out.
I don’t like that he devalues inside OL. I don’t suppose our scouting division is all that nice as a complete. However I additionally keep in mind again in February the entire hand-wringing in regards to the roster, the shortage of cap house, the shortage of draft picks, and so on…And but he’s managed his manner by that and given us a 2024 roster that has an opportunity to compete. That’s his job. The remainder of it, paying it off with post-season success, is on the coaches and gamers.
SlayerNation1 has Grier “trending up.”.
I might say Grier has been a sluggish learner and/or sluggish to evolve. For example, hiring Flo as a fast repair, all issues New England are turnkey successes, effectively after there was infinite proof on the contrary. As soon as He got here to grips with the trendy NFL and its favoring Offense, He did make the mandatory pivot. He put collectively an Offense-first crew. He additionally did what’s close to not possible to do within the NFL: encompass His hand-selected QB with essentially the most Alabama-like weapons.
Grier most likely made the identical quantity of errors as any GM, we’re hypersensitive to this crew. The purpose is, He’s trending UP.
Within the spirit of specializing in the open window and what’s forward, I might recognize that, in the mean time, Miami has a GM,HC,QB all trending UP and bettering.
62Lou would have given him his pink slip way back.
GRIER – is common a finest. I might have FIRED him years in the past as he has had some horrific draft busts. after the TANK season the dolphins had (5) 1st spherical picks and 4 second spherical pics over a two yr interval… Ross deserves extra credit score BC its his cash that purchased virtually all one of the best gamers now we have now. Largely bc of Grier’s draft failures. in comparison with the remainder of the NFL he’s about common. Till the dolphins win a playoff sport and division title – his administration has nothing to brag about…
edwinpena says general not good however fairly good.
My tackle Grier is that general he’s fairly good. No GM is ideal, that’s for positive. All of them make blunders, a few of which may price the franchise for years & years.
Exterior of some unforgivable strikes like the first spherical drafting of Noah Igbah -No one vs RB stud J. Taylor (Colts), the dropping of Wilkins, Hunt , AVG, all of whom ought to have been signed maybe a yr or two earlier, not even attending to free company. The remainder of what Grier has achieved has been fairly good. It is a gifted roster, quick as heck, and with depth at each spot. His signing of this effervescent coach MM can also be on his watch. General, as Phins followers, we might do a lot worse than having Chris Grier. For instance, anybody need Mike Tannen-Bum again ??
It positive is good to be nearing the season in order that we get some respectable site visitors on the question-of-the-day posts. The consensus is that there is no such thing as a consensus. Some see him as nice, others are within the center and a few suppose he’s a dumpster hearth. Yep, seems like a gaggle of my fellow Phins Followers! Thanks to all of you who took the time to reply our query of the day. Be part of us tomorrow when I’ll ask one other query of the day assuming the storm doesn’t knock my offline for a day or two.
